But Musa seemed to be throwing subtle shade at Espat, especially when we asked him whether he believes the ministries are working in silos. That's how Espat described it a couple of weeks ago, but it seemed to be a sore spot for Musa. Here's how he responded:
Kareem Musa:
"I don't want to comment much on that, but, yes, that is unfortunately the situation most of the time. And that's why it's good for different ministers who have super-ministries to get their portfolio of a smaller ministry or a less budget ministry like Home Affairs to actually see what it is that I was bringing to Cabinet complaining about all the time, of the situation. And so it's always good to get these interventions from other ministers that have budgets that can give that kind of input."
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